Impeachment?
I got an e-mail from ImpeachBush.org today. They made the points that we've all been making. What do you think folks? Do you think enough of us are mad enough to give it a go?
Personally, I'm all for another march on Washington . . . during the inauguration. Now wouldn't that be the hotness?! All us crazy left wingers there to protest! I think we may have something here! Spread the word!!
posted by MB @ 9:04 PM
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20 Comments:
Two reasons why a Bush victory is a good thing for all of us.
Where the response of Old Europe and the UN to Saddam Hussein was moral vacillation, only a Republican administration was willing to do what had to be done.
Almost as important George Bush can act as a bulwark against the corrosive influence of European liberalism.
Anonymous said: "What I don't stand for is the senseless killing of US troops in a war they don't know why they are fighting."
Maybe they do understand why they are fighting but you don't. Are you merely projecting your views on troops?
Get over it. Your party lost. Now do what John Kerry suggests. Work together to make this a better country.
There is a good case to impeach Bush. Not just for lying.
The US congress voted after WWII to ratify the Geneva Conventions, constitutionaly making them the "supreme law of the land". He has clearly and openly violeted the conventions.
While a march will get some attention, more is needed to change how laws are enforced. Bush won in 2000 and this year using the same strategy, through the Republican Secretary of State, and more. He also has "control" of everyone who works in any government agency and makes it known that he rewards those who are loyal to him - and what happens to the others? It's alarming how many have quit or left his cabinet - a huge red flag. I can imagine if your opinion differs from his, then you're not loyal? The FBI should investigate, but who is initiating this process? The book, 9/11 Commission Report, shows enough to impeach him - but no one is doing anything and Bush is re-elected..... 4 more years? ugh!
What exactly are the impeachable offenses? Don't just go generic here.
"It's alarming how many have quit or left his cabinet - a huge red flag."
First and foremost, the vast majority of the population rewards loyalty. It's kind of the way things work. You know...how you make friends and all that. You learn it early. And as far as people quitting or leaving...at least they didn't just die or off themselves unexpectedly like they did in Clinton's administration. Just an observation.
PuzzledPatriot- Charlie, I really wish I could believe what you say.
You can believe what I say. Your analysis is based on history,
And hind sight is a wonderful thing, but you will find that every Western intelligent service including France were sure he had WMD, after all he used them in Halladja killing thousands of men women and children. You are skeptical of Bush’s motivation, if you use the oil argument America could have bought up plenty of oil with the money saved by not invading Iraq, the securing of the oil facilities and preventing sabotage is only common sense after all Iraq needs oil to run its economy. I am not saying everything has gone to plan far from it huge cock-ups always occur in these events. He should have been deposed 12 years ago in my view. Winston Churchill made many mistakes costing many lives in the process, but he was regarded kindly by history, because he was right and he took risks.
We have freedom of speech we can discuss these issues, many in the Arab world; in fact all of the Arab world cannot herein lies the problem.
You say you are a furious liberal. I encourage you to take note of the happenings in Holland the most liberal of countries, in the last two weeks a film director has been shot six times and had his throat cut, a message from the Koran attached to his chest with a knife. Mosques have been bombed, shootouts using grenades by Islamic militants against the police.
Now right wing political parties are springing up calling for the repatriation of immigrants and the Prime Minister was on TV calling for calm. THIS IN HOLLAND.
Democrats, it's time to wake up and grab the bull by the horns. The Republican spin machine is already at work spreading the word that democrats have "less or no values" than they do.
We all know that Democrats have always been the leader of family values. Republicans have values as long as money is not involved. A perfect example is their 7 year block of granting the "minimum wage workers" a pay raise. I believe everyone deserves a raise, even a modest cost of living raise. The Republicans don't because the only ones that matter to them are big corporations. They deny hard working Americans "unemployment extensions" in certain times of economic hardship time after time.
59 million Americans were duped by the Republican greed machine. Weather gays can marry or not won't put food on your table, provide your family with health care or educate your children.
sour said "Bush has done so many good things for America AND the world. He has over-thrown a cruel dictator who was being a threat to his people and to many of the surrounding countries as well as the USA"
Sorry, I just had to comment on this:
If 9/11 did not happen would we be in Iraq? Most likely we would treat it like China and N. Korea.
We now know that Sadamm did not have the WMD's but was waiting until the sanctions were lifted to resume his WMD program, yet Republican talking heads tell me that sanctions do not work. So my questions is, "then why did Sadamm have to wait until they were lifted to resume his WMD program"?
People, Read between the lines. Not the spin. When you hear a talking head speak try and figure out what their motives are.
Someone wrote in about rising health care costs. Do you know why they are so high? It's because of one simple fundamental value that has all but evaporated from our country. That value is "to do the right thing no matter what the consequences". We see it all the time in everyday life, the mechanic rips you off, the doctor bills for services not rendered, the Senate caters to lobbyists and special interest. It's not that corporations can't afford to pay for health care, it's that they are required to increase profits quarter after quarter, wall street demands it and wall street is mostly republican. Corporations must find creative ways to please wall street and one way is to hire temporary workers, out source or cut benefits. It's this conserative movement to get as wealthy as possible that stretches from Wall Street to the White House that is what is wrong with our country.
If the leadership of the this country whether it be political or corporate adopts a "do the right thing" attitude, instead of an "ownership" society or a "me" society the country will follow suit.
Wow, and I thought Canada had issues.
Liberals - give it up you lost. Deal with it, the people spoke.
Clevercynic has anticipated my response to PuzzledPatriot and made some pertinent points with which I agree. The oil for food programme enabled Saddam Hussein to manipulate certain governments to his own ends; we now know why France was so against the removal of Saddam Hussein.
Anonymous said:
Actually, us liberals do stand for something. We stand for the acceptance of all people in the face of this hegemonic capitalistic, eurocentric, patriarchal, heterosexist, classist power structure of the current administration. We stand for the valuing of everyone, be they Iraqi, Afghani, black, brown, gay, muslim, atheist, whatever.
Unfortunatley Muslims and a few others don’t understand your point of view, in fact you would be crushed if they had their way. Sad but true.
"Almost as important George Bush can act as a bulwark against the corrosive influence of European liberalism."
Maybe liberalism is corrosive or maybe its not,
but I can tell you one thing Republican greed is certainly corrosive for America.
"I guess blocking oil drilling in Alaska is standing for something even though it would greatly releive our dependency on forign oil or standing for a hike in the minimum wage even though it would actually reduce entry level jobs and limit job experience opportunities. Standing in the way of tree cutting even though it effects the cost of lumber."
See how conserative views always boil down to money.
I'm willing to pay a little more for a cup of coffee or a little more at Wal-Mart if it means that the 8 million minimum wage workers get a cost of living raise. Because it's the "right thing to do". A basic fundamental, traditional value I learned early on, a value the Republican party have forgotten.
I'm willing to pay a little more for a cup of coffee or a little more at Wal-Mart if it means that the 8 million minimum wage workers get a cost of living raise.
You may want to do that, however I'll bet my life that the 8 million workers will not see their wages raised, it will go into increased profit margins. I've been there done that got the t shirt.
At 7:55 AM, RangerDrew72 said...
some really dumb things. I beleive this country was founded on the people questioning the government & not accepting everything they say as truth like sheep. If you feel you are there for freedom, good for you.
Calling people who disagree with you pinkos or whatever is your childish way of dealing with your doubt.
In my opinion - you wanted to impeach a man who lied about a blow job. There's a man in office who lied about WMD's - no one died as a result of a little white lie regarding a blow job...
who should be impeached again?
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"Do you think enough of us are mad enough to give it a go?" That's a suspiciously European way of expression. Perhaps that's why your comments seemed out of place to me. You obviously don't know much about the Republic that we live in here in America.
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