Thursday, November 04, 2004

Post Election Party

While attending Farai's post-election party at the Dragon Bar in North Beach Wednesday night, I met a young woman from London, who just relocated to San Francisco with her fiancee. The first question she asked was how we could re-elect Bush. Yes, a good question worthy of a good answer. She told me she had a friend in Mississippi, who is also from London, who's working on her PhD (and is also a black woman who just happens to be dating a white man is having a hard time dealing with the reactions of locals). I simply told her to go to the South, spend time with her friend and talk to people there because being in San Francisco, she'll never gain any perspective on how the rest of Americans vote and think.

The way the right has used gay marriage to mobilize its base to vote in 11 crucial states is a brilliant lesson in American politics and spin. Those voters turned to vote first against gay marriage and then for Bush. The left, take note! These voters said that morals are what guided them in making their decisions. I guess that means being homophobic. What is the left going to do to correct this, to prevent this type of reactionary voting from happening in the future and further disenfranchising people?

I think this young woman, new to American, smart and interested in politics, will learn a good lesson from looking to the South first.


At 10:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think that if you and the Dems continue to think of all people opposed to same sex marriage as homophobes, then you'll continue to lose time and again. Your position is just another form of bigotry.

At 2:15 PM, Blogger brainhell said...

Only time will dissolve the Confederacy. Give it a few decades or centuries and America will mature.

At 7:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is wacked out Anonymous saying? They haven't a clue do they? The truly bigoted individuals are those who deny gay individuals civil liberties because of their homophobia. Using homophobia to prevent gays from marrying is like a person saying that they are so uncomfortable with another person's way of life they would rather rudely force people to change rather than grow up and accept differences between individuals. Being against gay marriage is exactly the same as being against interracial marriage. How can one claim differently. Moreover, last that I checked... nobody in the Democratic party was running around trying to imprison Alan Keyes for his disgust of homosexuality. If he dislikes homosexuals, then fine... it is his right not to associate with them. Nobody is forcing him to. However, it does not give him the right to infringe upon their civil liberties. To say that some people can marry and others cannot based on sexuality is exactly the same as denying a woman the right to vote, or a person of color from using the same public facilities. It is the same as saying that some people can be slaves and some people can be masters. It is a classic example of inequality. The point is that standing up for people different than yourself is NOT bigotry. If homophobes want to remain scared of homosexuals, then that is their business... nobody is trying to change their mind. However, denying individuals civil rights because it makes one uncomfortable is selfish and wrong.

At 7:39 PM, Blogger Steve-O said...

I know we are in an era of an unprecedented desire for tolerance and acceptance, but the real reason people voted against gay marriage, is simple.
The reason is not that I or other like minded individuals are homophobes. The reason is that everything about homosexuality goes against the grain of what is natural and normal. That's right...homosexuality is unnatural and is not normal. Those of you who are pro-gay don't want to hear this, but the simple fact is that the design of the animal world is set up for male/female relations. Even animals realize this. The Bible, yes the Bible, is a good resource for this problem. The Bible addresses homosexuality and speaks directly about how we should react to this problem. The homosexual lifestyle is disgusting and NOT normal. Fortunately there are enough people in this nation who still try to vote according to what the Bible teaches. One important note, God does not hate homosexuals, nor do most Christians. It is important to point out that to God all sin is equal. It is also important to realize that He loves each person equally as well. This means that any person, regardless of sexual preference can be accepted by God. That person must naturally shun the homosexual lifestyle, however.

At 8:09 PM, Blogger CleverCynic said...

Tell you what, you stop killing the unborn - or CHOOSING to, and we'll let gays marry. After reviewing the arguments for each, they are absolutely identical. I see no way that cognition can draw a line against one and support the other.

At 10:00 PM, Blogger From deep in enemy territory... said...

Dawn said: "These voters said that morals are what guided them in making their decisions. I guess that means being homophobic."

You don't seem to have a clue what morality is do you? Think about it, if everyone was queer, the human race would have died out eons ago. Doesn't that tell you something? Because I find the entire homosexual lifestyle personally revolting, why does that make me a homophobe? I'm certainly not afraid of any homosexual, I'm quite comfortable in my manhood, and see no threat other than the further degradation of society's moral compass. For a few thousand years now, marriage has been traditionally a man/woman union. Now all of a sudden you "enlightened thinkers" seem to think you know better than virtually everyone who has come before you throughout history. Do you have any idea as to the amount of unbelievable gall that requires?

There is probably no more disgusting thought than to roll over in bed in the morning to see some guys hairy ass next to me. Sheesh, I don't even understand how you women can put up with it!

By the way, how is it that if a man pinches a womans butt and she turns around and slaps him, she's just standing up for her rights. But if a guy pinches me on the butt, and I turn around and deck him, I'm homophobic?


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