Friday, November 19, 2004

Guardian columnist bemoans liberal America's self-loathing.

Timothy Garton Ash, writing from San Francisco yesterday, had this to say, among other things, about liberals after the election:

"I 'm getting seriously worried about anti-Americanism. Anti-Americanism in America, that is. Here are just a few of the things that I've heard travelling through blue, ie liberal, America over the two weeks since George Bush won the election. 'The truth is, they just are stupid." (A New Yorker, of people in the red, ie conservative, states.) 'The snakes.' 'Fascism.' 'Christian fascism.' 'I wanted to make a film about a time when young Americans fought against fascism and not for it." (A producer, explaining why he commissioned a film about the Spanish civil war.)'

While Garton doesn't bemoan the liberal self-loathing as ardently as he should have (please! let's not whine about the election but moblize for 2006), the bigger question is when are we going to see that many faith-voters, along with liberal-Democratic voters, were dupped by Bush this election? Did Bush ever mention same-sex marriage, stem-cell research, abortions, in his post-election speech? I doubt that these will be issues now that Bush has a mandate to turn Iraq into an ashcan for the sake of liberal democratic ideals.

9 Comments:

At 12:35 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wanted to make a film about a time when young Americans fought against fascism and not for it.

The Guardian is populated by limp wristed lefty liberals I would never ever be taken in by the tripe they pedal, they would ban enjoyment if it were possible.
I'm now going to the pub for some intelligent repartee.

 
At 2:43 PM, Blogger Marta Donayre said...

This argument that people who question authority are anti-American is getting old. Last I checked, this is exaclty why our founders went out of their way to ensure freedom of speech and freedom of the press: so Americans could freely question government to keep it in check.

On the lady who wrote about having to apologize abuot her religion, I would ask her to please stay away from my blog (martadonayre.com) because she won't like it.

 
At 4:02 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bush is continuing to ruin this country and the Government continues to strip us of our civil rights all in the name of terrorism. Terrorism has been around forever.


That is a rash political statement to make and smacks of shear desperation. Bush wants to make Americans less reliant on big government, so I thought.
You maybe very relaxed about 9/11 and terrorism so how many acts of terrorism would you be prpared to accept before taking action against them.
The American economy is gaining strength much to the envy of the Europeans and free speech supression, well that’s another illusion.

 
At 8:27 PM, Blogger Henry Emerson said...

I agree wholeheartedly on the note that we should prepare for 2006. We should not allow the grief from this defeat to sway us from preparing for new challenges ahead.

 
At 1:27 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well there is another. "One Flew over Cuckoos Nest".

 
At 11:44 AM, Blogger Billf said...

The clever emotional button-pushing of the Right is moving America in an alarmingly un-American direction. The good news, however, is the increasingly focussed, sane center-left awakening that almost unseated this neo-Con administration and will continue to fight for the actual interests of "we the people" and work toward developing a majority. Don't give up. Come visit me at Red State Pinko, and let's see what more we can do.

 
At 1:37 PM, Blogger kris said...

Wow! we went from movies to hard-core politics...impressive.

However, i will post a thought, out of morbid curiousity to the result. Could it be possible that young people are not wanting facism so much as socialism? and if so, what is wrong with that?

 
At 5:34 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sure the confusion post election is understandable. I don't recall there being so much attention on a election in my 40 years, so it's understandable the desperate brain-storming of some to try to make sense of how Bush won. I believe the core of this is that most, if not all liberals are against war, against pollution, and against ignoring the poor of our own country in trade for spending billions to bomb Iraqis. The right can talk all they want about the "precision bombing" going on in Iraq, but pictures of thousands of photos don't lie. I believe this is the driving emotional force behind the anti bush movement.

Now I can honestly say, after finding out Iraq has received 16 times more radioctivity than Hiroshima, that I expect a big boom in the next four years.

 
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