Thursday, January 13, 2005

Wait, Why Are We In Iraq?

The search for Weapons of Mass Destruction is over and nothing has been found!!!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=544&ncid=718&e=10&u=/ap/20050113/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_iraq_weapons


So, uh, why did we go to war again?

-Jean Chen

13 Comments:

At 1:02 PM, Blogger William C. White said...

What? No weapons were found? Does that mean that Saddam Hussein was telling the truth when he said he had destroyed his weapons? I thought Hussein was a liar!!! Since we didn't find any weapons, maybe we shouldn't have ever gone into Iraq. Let's ask the White House,

Query:
White House, now that we know there were no weapons, of mass destruction how do you feel about the invasions?

Response:
"Based on what we know today, the president would have taken the same action because this is about protecting the American people," said Press Secretary Scott McClellan.

Damn!!! I guess when you're stuck on stupid, you're REALLY stuck.

Maybe the president can put this into perspective:

Query:
Mr. President, now that we know that Saddam Hussein didn’t really have weapons of mass destruction, was he REALLY a danger to America?


Response:
"I felt like we'd find weapons of mass destruction — like many here in the United States, many around the world," Bush said in the interview, to be broadcast Friday night. "We need to find out what went wrong in the intelligence gathering. ... Saddam was dangerous and the world is safer without him in power."

Damn!!! Those extra strength ignorant pills just don’t wear off.

Now the only claim left against Hussein is that he killed “innocent” Iraqis. Guess who these innocent Iraqis were. You guessed it, Kurdish-Iranian forces!!! In other words, the same people we were helping Iraq fight in the Iran-Iraq war are the “innocents” that he is accused of killing. Everybody knows that we were siding with Iraq in the Iran-Iraq war, how is this Administration now able to claim that Iraq attacked its innocent NEIGHBORS. Kuwait AND Iran. This is bogus!!! It’s amazing how many Americans are stupid enough to fall for this garbage. Quick question, can women vote in the democratic country of Kuwait yet, what about hold political office? That’s what I thought.

America is looking BAD; the thing is, too many Americans don’t care. Anti-American conservatives are going to drag this country down. America isn’t as strong as it thinks it is, as this illegal Iraqi invasion is showing. Imagine if we had to fight Iran, Iraq, Syria, and Libya tomorrow, would we win without nuclear weapons?

Do people still believe this war was justified? Is America actually safer today than it was before Bush became president? NOTE: Requests to all conservatives, before you answer, PLEASE, do not take your extra strength ignorant pills and then answer. Try responding with facts, not anti-American garbage logic. If you can’t do that, don’t respond!!!!!

 
At 3:29 PM, Blogger Gustavo said...

“So, uh, why did we go to war again?

Jean Chen”

I don’t know, really, Chen. But, where are Weapons of Mass Destruction ? The true is than Bush and Blair lied about this to all world. But now, Iraq Resistance are killed many soldiers of England and “yankees”. Is the reality!
U.S. Army go out of Iraq!

 
At 4:10 PM, Blogger stevesnotblogger said...

Response:
"Based on what we know today, the president would have taken the same action because this is about protecting the American people," said Press Secretary Scott McClellan.

Damn!!! I guess when you're stuck on stupid, you're REALLY stuck

LOL.
I doubt the mainstream media will put this on the front page. It seems we are becoming docile to the Iraq war. We are not quesitoning what's going on, just accepting it. The R wingers have made it to where if you question your government, you are considered unpatrotic. They would also have you believe that the terrorists hate us because we stand for democracy and not our one-sided foreign policy in that area of the world.
I am not buying it for one second!

 
At 4:23 PM, Blogger Russ said...

Really.... no WMD's in Iraq? Who would have ever thought. Maybe all you right wing Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Ann Coulter loyalists will finally see the light and understand the truth us "left wing whackos" (as you have graciously labeled us) have been trying to drill into your dense heads since before all this began.

I echo what has been said. Where's the threat to America? Isn't Bin Laden more of a threat and wasn't he always? Funny how the administration and their supporters skate around answering that question directly. It's also sad that the one who was and continues to be the threat is out there roaming the planet free to plan more attacks worse than 9/11 while the leader of a sovereign nation who never attacked the US was jailed through the execution of an illegal war (as declared by the UN) and waged by a person who many consider an illegitimate president.

 
At 10:23 PM, Blogger Pontificate4U said...

I know I'll be eviscerated for what I'm about to say, but I'm going to play devil's advocate for a moment and get conspiratorial. Has it ever occurred to anyone that the United States was complicit in what happened on 9/11? I know how difficult it is to imagine but there are certain indicators that would support this theory that has been overwhelmingly relegated to media obscurity. The US was bound and determined to purge Afghanistan of all criminal elements since the Clinton administration but lacked the pretence for doing so. In addition, Bush and Wolfowitz have both had major hard-ons for Saddam going way back. An attack like that on the WTC sufficed in galvanizing the American public, and the world for that matter. I won't go so far as to say that the US Gov. had a direct role in it but they could have just as easily chosen to ignore the warning signs. I mean honestly what was all that bullshit about intelligence agencies' inability to share info? What about the agents who were way out in front on this thing stating privately and publicly that an attack of this sort was imminent?

I don't know how much credence any of you lend to "Fahrenheit 9/11" but Michael Moore does everything but make the very accusation I am making tonight. The oil pipeline, the Bin Laden family being permitted to depart the US without so much as a simple interview with the FBI, etc. What the administration didn't count on was the friction they encountered when they introduced Iraq as the next target in the Bush/Cheney "War on Terror". They essentially assumed that the American people would fall into line when the Bush cabinet members played on our emotions by constantly harkening back to that clear day in September when "democracy itself was under attack".

I won't go on as most of you will lambaste me without mercy for spewing such vitriol, but I will make mention of this one frightening, and entirely overlooked piece of evidence: the inexplicable seismic activity that occurred moments before the WTC collapsed. I still haven't heard any official explanation for this but its existence is irrefutable. Seismic activity was noted at several locations including the Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory at Columbia University in Palisades New York.

"However, the Palisades seismic record shows that—as the collapses began—a huge seismic “spike” marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were all registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the Earth."
http://www.americanfreepress.net/09_03_02/NEW_SEISMIC_/new_seismic_.html

 
At 4:22 PM, Blogger Henry Wallace said...

This was a post from my blog "The Liberal Side of Life" at http://therealpolitik.blogspot.com/. Starts out with talking about homosexuality, but gets into my feelings on the Iraq debacle.

Cast some stones, Religious Right

The more I think about the issue of homosexuality, the more I become inflamed by the ignorant and Bible-thumping ways of many of the Religious Right. Look, I'm the first to admit that in the Bible it is clearly stated, in Leviticus 18:22, that "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." So we're basically told it's a sin. That's fine. But it's the blatant moral hypocrisy of the Religious Right that gets at me. Jesus said "Love thy neighbor" no matter what, and the blatant homophobia and hatred the Religious Right often acts with does not correspond with that important idea. Furthermore, the most important words I think Jesus ever spoke, besides on the cross, were these:

"He who is without sin among you, let him throw the first stone." John 8:7

Since I am fairly certain that Jesus never points out a degree of sin, one being worse than another, we're all guilty here. So the concentration on homosexuality allows all sorts of other horribly wrong things to fall through the cracks, kind of like...

Is there anything more morally shocking and horrible than sending young men to die for reasons that proved to be incorrect and wrong? There's not much I can think of that is. Yet this administration has done just that with the preemptive war in Iraq. Now look at it. More than thousand Americans have died and for what? A helpless democracy in a place that didn't show much interest in it to begin with; otherwise they might've rebelled against Saddam in the first place. Bush wants the Iraqi national election to go on as planned, even when it looks as if a lot of people may be unable to vote safely. All of this really gets to me because I believe that telling your soldiers that they are going to fight in a place that really threatens their country when it ranks way down there in direct threats is something absolutely terrible. I mean, shoot. If we're going to actually attack some place that might actually threaten us, why the hell didn't we invade North Korea? That has to be numero uno on the list of greatest potential threats to U.S. security outside of nationless terrorism. But see, that would've taken more effort and would've been a lot riskier than invading Iraq. Of course, now we see that there are NO WMDs. Bush & Company searched for evidence, anything to get the American people scared shitless of Saddam and his supposed danger to American security. George Tenant, who was recently awarded the Freedom Medal for his, (ahem), "great" work in counterterrorism, told Bush invading Iraq was a "slam dunk." We, the American people, were told Saddam was harboring terrorists. So we invaded. Then when it became apparent that, uh, there weren't actually any WMDs and that Al Qaeda was not up to jack shit in Iraq, Bush turned WMDs into WMD-developing programs. When that looked stupid, he got away with saying down maybe 10 years down the line, Hussein would've been a threat. And Bush still managed to win the election even after he lied to the American people. WHAAAAAA??? Last time I checked, lying to the nation actually qualifies as grounds for impeachment, like Bill Clinton. Then again, Clinton lied about a sexual affair. That didn't get a good thousand Americans and a good hundred thousand Iraqi civilians killed.

So basically, I look at the Republican party and its die-hard supporter, the Religious Right, and I laugh at both of them. They speak of being righteous and all that crap, when in reality the war they backed proved to be a grand error. In comparison, the Religious Right cried foul over Clinton's sexual promiscuousness, but not when 1,000 Americans died without a valid reason. Real damn sensible.

 
At 11:56 PM, Blogger wilhelm said...

Back in 1971 when I was a proud airman in the US Air Force I was enrolled in a course of training that required me to have a secret security clearence.There was an extensive background check that I was actually surprised I passed since by age 12 I was allready a convicted felon. Grand theft auto. Any how, I show up for school and immediately notice that all of the students weren't American. Some of them were from Iran. Some even from Viet Nam and everybody wore their uniform proudly. That was the first thing about military life that confused me. There were many more to come.Things like weapons being sold from home to Iraqi so that they could defeat Iran. But then we sold weapons to Iran so that they might defeat Iraqi. This, as most of you know was back in the 80's when George senior was boss. The weapons, I have heard were real wmd's. Germs and chemicals and all that nasty stuff that we are all so afraid of now.Did we really have a grudge with Iran and Iraqi or was it genocide. Or did we just simply need a testing ground for these weapons and lab rats just weren't getting it. What ever was going on back then seems to be going on again. Millions of people, mostly with the same skin color, are killing each other at an alarming rate.Think of the problem we would have if they all quit fighting each other and decided to fight us. I would hate to see the wmd's that would have to be pulled out of the closets to win that war. You know the war I mean don't you? The big one. WW3

 
At 11:56 PM, Blogger wilhelm said...

Back in 1971 when I was a proud airman in the US Air Force I was enrolled in a course of training that required me to have a secret security clearence.There was an extensive background check that I was actually surprised I passed since by age 12 I was allready a convicted felon. Grand theft auto. Any how, I show up for school and immediately notice that all of the students weren't American. Some of them were from Iran. Some even from Viet Nam and everybody wore their uniform proudly. That was the first thing about military life that confused me. There were many more to come.Things like weapons being sold from home to Iraqi so that they could defeat Iran. But then we sold weapons to Iran so that they might defeat Iraqi. This, as most of you know was back in the 80's when George senior was boss. The weapons, I have heard were real wmd's. Germs and chemicals and all that nasty stuff that we are all so afraid of now.Did we really have a grudge with Iran and Iraqi or was it genocide. Or did we just simply need a testing ground for these weapons and lab rats just weren't getting it. What ever was going on back then seems to be going on again. Millions of people, mostly with the same skin color, are killing each other at an alarming rate.Think of the problem we would have if they all quit fighting each other and decided to fight us. I would hate to see the wmd's that would have to be pulled out of the closets to win that war. You know the war I mean don't you? The big one. WW3

 
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