You Can Hear a Pin Drop
Liberals are sooooo quiet these days. It must be because they are truly devastated by the stunning progress in the Middle East:
???1. Afghanistan is reasonably peaceful (for Afghanistan), has had successful elections and is making steady progress toward democracy.
2. Millions of courageous Iraqis braved suicide bombings, mortar fire, and all
manner of intimidation from insurgents desperately trying to stop the elections. And, with U.S. help, they are succeeding in casting off the yoke of tyrrany in the name of freedom and self-determination.
3. The Palestinians have held successful elections as moderate Mahmoud Abbas was elected with 62% of the vote. Could it be there is a silent majority in Palestine as well?
4. Now Israelis and Palestinians have declared a cease fire just days after Condoleeza Rice was confirmed as U.S. Secretary of State. Peace talks have begun in earnest now that terrorist Arafat is in the ground. "This is the most promising moment of progress between Palestinians and Israelis in recent years," Rice said, as she became the first high ranking U.S. official in years to visit the Palestinian Authority headquarters in Ramallah.
The left continues to
underestimate George Bush and his hard working administration. John Kerry offers some timely advice, warning us not to "overhype" the stunning success of the Iraqi election as millions of Iraqis dance in the streets. And quoting from the always razor sharp Ann Coulter, "Democrats haven't been this depressed since we captured Saddam Hussein."
posted by Anonymous @ 7:48 PM
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Mr. White--Your respect is not important to me because you show so little for yourself. The only one damaged by your tirades and personal insults is you. I will not dignify your comments with any further discussion as you have already proven the truth behind the post. Good evening.
I was justly reprimanded by Ms. Chen for turning a recent comment into a seperate blog entry. So I have removed the blog entry, and pasted below what used to be "More from: You Can Hear a Pin Drop," complete with Mr. White's latest contributions. My humble apologies to the management. Thank you for guiding me back into compiance. -Patrick Anderson
Wednesday, February 09, 2005
More from "You Can Hear a Pin Drop" Feb. 7, 2005
Dear Puzzled Patriot:
Thank you for your calm and well crafted post. You are a gentleman. It may surprise you to learn that I agree with you on many points. This is a horrible war. We did "break the window," and it is costing way too much money and far too many lives to fix it. I am not proud of this war, nor am I proud of the Bush administration for letting us get drawn into what amounts to urban warfare against an almost invisible enemy. My history book records this as a huge tactical error. And yes, I absolutely agree that progress must be measured by a reduction in violence, an end to the killing, and finally peace.
As a pragmatist, I know that history cannot be changed. What happened yesterday or yesteryear will not be reversed no matter how loudly and viciously we protest, and no matter how outraged we become over the enormous expense and the tragic loss of lives. We must now be judged by what we accomplish going forward. And so America is faced with two choices in Iraq: (1) surrender, or (2) finish the job.
Surely you must know that surrender is not an option. Surrender to the terrorist jihad would be far more costly in lives and dollars than standing our ground and finishing the job. An American surrender would supercharge the enemy, an enemy that teaches its children that it is their religious duty to kill Americans and Israelis. Surrender would lead to a huge civil war and a blood bath in Iraq, the likes of which we have not seen since the collapse of the South Vietnamese government.
Robert F. Turner, Associate Director at the Center for National Security Law, University of Virginia School of Law wrote in December of 2001:
"Most Vietnam "peace activists" no doubt still feel pride in having "ended the war." They simply don't realize that those whom they helped bring to power slaughtered more people in the first two years of "peacetime" following the "liberation" of Indochina than were killed during the previous 14 years of war, including an estimated two million in tiny Cambodia alone. Additional millions were consigned to a Stalinist tyranny that decades later continued to rank among the world's worst human rights violators. But most Americans don't know that, having tuned out Vietnam when American troops came home more than a quarter-century ago."
On August 3, 1995 The Wall Street Journal published an interview with Bui Tin who served on the General Staff of the North Vietnam Army. During the interview Mr. Tin was asked if the American antiwar movement was important to Hanoi's victory. Mr. Tin responded "It was essential to our strategy."
My point is, Americans have lives to save. We have a job to finish. And there are heroic young men and women standing in the line of fire, losing limbs and coming home in body bags so that you and I can sit on our asses and sound off about anything that enters our mind. But, ranting loudly and viciously attacking the decisions and intentions of our leadership produces no positive result. It feeds the spirit of the enemy, undermines the efforts of our courageous soldiers, and costs American and Iraqi lives every day. The constant criticism and second guessing only prolongs the war and , if allowed to prevail, leads to a disastrous conclusion for those who cherish freedom.
As mentioned, I have issues with the Bush administration over some of the moves they've made. But, looking at all the cards on the table, the decision to go forward with the Iraqi elections on January 30 was absolutely the right move. It will save thousands of lives and advance the cause of freedom. That's my measuring stick. I'm proud of our leadership for enduring the pressure from all the surrender critics who wanted to delay the elections. George Bush, I salute you.
The result was a clear message to the terrorist insurgency that the Iraqi people have backbone and possess a genuine appetite for freedom and democracy. You cannot stage the kind of spontaneous street celebrations we witnessed two Sundays ago, the victory signs, nor the fingers of blue ink proudly displayed in defiance of those who would subjugate the Iraqi people. The memory of these courageous voters will inspire Muslims throughout the Middle East to seek and defend what is rightfully theirs as living inhabitants of this planet--individual freedom. If you are arguing about the poll statistics, you are missing the point. The events of that day should be a profound lesson for every American who even remotely takes liberty for granted, myself included.
I'll admit I baited the discussion with the Ann Coulter quote ("Democrats haven't been this depressed since we captured Saddam Hussein."). It's a wicked comment designed to infuriate the surrender critics. But I am disgusted that any American enjoying the blanket of freedom (purchased with the blood of fallen American soldiers throughout our history) can sink so low as to nitpick and criticize any election where people brave homicide bombers and mortar attacks to cast their vote! And it gags me to recall John Kerry (presumed war hero) suggest how important it is not to "overhype" this historic event, he having come so close to being elected Commander in Chief. I never realized how important a vote could be.
I am most inspired by the noble sacrifices made by thousands of Iraqis, Brits and Americans who have given arms, legs, and lives so that other lives can be spared. In my opinion, there is no higher purpose than the pursuit of freedom and the protection of the helpless from oppression. If you are still tuned-in to this lengthy post, please take another moment and visit Soldier, Soldier--A Tribute. Consider making a donation to the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund where 100% of the proceeds go to the grieving families of American soldiers who have given their lives in the name of our freedom. Details are included at the bottom of the site.
posted by Patrick Anderson @ 10:14 PM 2 comments
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At 6:19 AM, William C. White said...
You can’t run Mr. Anderson, the Matrix has you. So here we go again….
So your logic is, if you start beating the hell out of some guy thinking that he was the one who smacked your kid or insulted your wife, but in the middle of the fight you find out that he wasn’t the guy, you don’t stop kicking his ass because, hell, might as well finish what you started. Yeah, that makes PERFECT sense.
Finish the job? What job? The JOB was to find weapons of mass destruction. The job was to shut down the chemical and nuclear weapons capability. The job was to destroy Al-Quadi. The job was to punish those responsible for 9-11. The job was NOT to destabilize Iraq and forcefully implement a “democratic” (if Shiites can be democratic) government.
Like I’ve said on other posts, if another country invaded America and toppled our government, you better believe there would be hundreds of thousands of American “insurgents” attacking the invaders at every chance. And guess what our invaders would call those American insurgents? Yeah, you guessed it, TERRORIST. Damn, isn’t it strange how that works?
Surrender would lead to a huge civil war and a bloodbath in Iraq? You mean as opposed to the peace and harmony that exists today? OKAY!!!
They teach their kids that it is okay to kill Americans and Israelis? Well we teach our kids that it’s okay to kill Iraqis and other Arabs. We just use names like “terrorist”, “insurgents”, “enemy combatants”, etc. Similarly, they use names like “infidels”, “heathens”, “Satanist”, etc. So you see that’s a two-way street. Our peaceful American soldier is their ungodly infidel. Your problem seems to be ethnocentrism. Look it up!!
This paragraph,
“My point is, Americans have lives to save. We have a job to finish. And there are heroic young men and women standing in the line of fire, losing limbs and coming home in body bags so that you and I can sit on our asses and sound off about anything that enters our mind. But, ranting loudly and viciously attacking the decisions and intentions of our leadership produces no positive result. It feeds the spirit of the enemy, undermines the efforts of our courageous soldiers, and costs American and Iraqi lives every day. The constant criticism and second guessing only prolongs the war and , if allowed to prevail, leads to a disastrous conclusion for those who cherish freedom.”
can be summed up in two words EMOTIONAL BULLSHIT. Once again, you can’t argue your point, so you try and appeal to an individual’s emotions. How pathetic.
Here is another paragraph of that emotional bullshit.
I am most inspired by the noble sacrifices made by thousands of Iraqis, Brits and Americans who have given arms, legs, and lives so that other lives can be spared. In my opinion, there is no higher purpose than the pursuit of freedom and the protection of the helpless from oppression. If you are still tuned-in to this lengthy post, please take another moment and visit Soldier, Soldier--A Tribute. Consider making a donation to the Intrepid Fallen Heroes Fund where 100% of the proceeds go to the grieving families of American soldiers who have given their lives in the name of our freedom. Details are included at the bottom of the site.
Make a donation? That doesn’t seem very capitalistic to me!! GIVE someone money? These families should pick themselves up by their bootstraps and move on. Help take care of the families of fallen soldiers? What are we, some sick commie nation? Come on man!!! Don’t you remember your mentality from a previous post? Give me capitalism or give me death. What happened? Capitalist hypocrites amuse me.
The pursuit of freedom and the protection of the helpless from the oppression? You might want to read up on Shiites and their history (Iran) before you start making statements like that. Just when thought ignorance had its limitations, BAM, HEEEEEEERES Patty. When this is said and done, the Shiites are going to make Saddam Hussein look like Mother Theresa.
In conclusion, what was this statement to Puzzled Patriot about?
Thank you for your calm and well crafted post. You are a gentleman.
Were you taking a ladylike shot at me? Do you think that your being a gentleman when you use words like “surrender critics”? What, you don’t think that the “surrender critics’” arguments are legitimate? Are you being a gentleman/lady, whatever, when you say that those who criticize the election are sinking low and nitpicking? A couple of months ago the Shiites were “terrorists” and “insurgents” and we were amazed that they didn’t welcome us with open arms after we had “freed” them from Saddam Hussein The Wicked. Now all of the sudden they aren’t terrorists but rather brave, peaceful Iraqi people who just want their voices to be heard. Hold on a second I have to sneeze, AHHH, AHHH, AHHH, BULLSHIT. Okay, I’m back. But anyway you get the point.
You did better this time Mr. Anderson. You still used that emotional bullshit to argue, logical arguments seem to escape you, but keep trying you’ll get it eventually. I have to go now, I think there some democracy to undermine somewhere. As you know, that’s what we liberals do. Until next time.
At 6:36 AM, William C. White said...
Also, for the record, this just in:
Palestinian militants on Thursday fired dozens of mortar shells and homemade rockets at Jewish settlements in the Gaza Strip.
Damn cease fires.
Mr. White,
I must congratulate you for making it through an entire post without calling me a moron or a retarded chimp. Your progress is commendable and I feel compelled to reward your good behavior with a rebuttal.
You said: "...if another country invaded America and toppled our government, you better believe there would be hundreds of thousands of American "insurgents” attacking the invaders at every chance."
You're damn right we would. If it happened today, those who cherish freedom would be fighting the invaders to the death, and those who don't would be scampering off to Canada. I'm wondering Which side would you be on?
On the other hand, try to imagine an America governed for three decades by a murdering, torturing, genocidal rapist like Saddaam Hussein. Then imagine that a liberator invades America and topples the merciless dictatorship. I assert that you would see millions of Americans dancing in the streets, just like the Iraqis two Sundays ago. Again, which side would you be on?
I can't wait for our soldiers to come home and the violence to end. But I would be truly disappointed in our leadership if we provided these hungry souls a taste of freedom, then walked away before they were equipped to defend it. Another "cut and run" surrender like we had in Viet Nam would be unforgivable.
You said: "They teach their kids that it is okay to kill Americans and Israelis? Well we teach our kids that it’s okay to kill Iraqis and other Arabs."
No, sir. I said we face "an enemy that teaches its children that it is their RELIGIOUS DUTY to kill Americans and Israelis." Where have you heard such a manipulative, immoral religious tenet being rammed down the throats of American children? I'd like to know, because I want to come down hard on that Sunday School teacher. Show me an American church where they strap bombs on children and teach them that if they blow themselves up and Kill some Muslims, St. Peter will be pimping 72 virgins for them when they get to the pearly gates.
American children are (or should be) taught that they were given the gift of freedom at great cost, and it is their duty to defend that gift. God has nothing to do with it. And if you can't see the difference between what the jihad liars are teaching Muslim children, and what our Founding Fathers intended for their descendents to learn, then I urge you to seek asylum in the Islamic country of your choice and join your brothers.
You attempt to cast me as a capitalist hypocrite because I would solicit voluntary contributions to a fund supporting the families of our fallen war heroes, Apparently you think true capitalists do not believe in donations. Is that what you really meant to say, or would you like to rethink that?
A capitalist is one who employs capital and labor in the production of wealth. I'm sure you can find a dozen other similarly worded definitions of capitalism, but none of them will describe a capitalist as averse to voluntary acts of generosity. In fact, were it not for capitalists, the charitable organizations and foundations in this country would collapse within weeks and world suffering would increase tenfold.
Do you think Bill Gates is a capitalist hypocrite, too? The Bill and Melinda Gates foundation has an endowment exceeding $27 billion and is largely dedicated to the cause of world health. Capitalists are quite generous when the donations are voluntary. We do not, however, abide socialism where we are expected to open our wallets at the point of a gun.
Finally, I see you are gloating because "Palestinian militants on Thursday fired dozens of mortar shells and homemade rockets at Jewish settlements in the Gaza Strip." Or are you just trying to undermine my joy in the recently announced cease fire. Peace is not an easy process, especially in the Middle East. And it's all the more difficult when people who profess to be pacifists cheer the lunatic militants when they temporarily interrupted the cease fire. So which are you, sir? A pacifist, a terrorist, or a hypocrite? I'd really like to know.
TOP 10 MOST IRRATIONAL, TREASONOUS, AND/OR HILARIOUS QUOTES FROM WILLIAM C. WHITE (in this Blog Discussion alone):
10. "Saddam’s international “crime” is not killing the Kurds; his crime is using GAS to kill the Kurds."
9. "Look at the always sharp Ann Coulter in her own words, not what someone says she said,..." (in rebuttal to a direct quote from Ann Coulter's February 3, 2005 nationally syndicated column, complete with hotlink).
8. "Let the record show, there was no violence like you’re seeing today in Iraq while Saddam was in power. He knew what would make them sit their asses down. When in Rome, do as the Romans!!!"
7. "I think capitalism is evil, and I think that the only good capitalist is a capitalist with a bullet in his head."
6. "If they (the Kurds) couldn’t defend themselves they should have stayed out of it. To paraphrase Dave Chappelle, If I didn’t have an army to fight with, I’d shut the fuck up."
5. "You obviously believe that a cease fire means something."
4. "the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, North Korea, etc. are NOT communist."
3. "Just because some in Saddam’s party raped people does not mean Saddam condoned it. That’s just plain and simple bullshit. There was probably A RAPE, which has been turned into RAPES."
2. "When the Koran says, kill “fake” Christian and Jews, they kill them...Right or wrong, Muslims tend to keep it real!!!"
1. "Saddaam never murdered anyone!!!"
HONORABLE MENTION: "In a true socialist society you would not have to open up your wallet, because you wouldn’t have a wallet."
Puzzled Patriot: I return your salute. There is little separating us after all. See you on another topic.
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