Friday, December 10, 2004

Saving society from moral destruction

In the latest example of close-minded censorship disguised as "protection," Alabama State Representative Gerald Allen wants to bury books that include "positive depictions of homosexuality as an alternative lifestyle." Allen means books like Alice Walker's "The Color Purple" and Tennessee Williams' "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof."

Setting aside the obvious issue of censorship, let's examine the underlying belief in Allen's statement: homosexuality as a lifestyle, a choice. This is what gay rights activists need to address, and they need to do it convincingly. The question of sexuality as a choice has been missing from the discussion on gay marriage, except for a surprising moment in the third presidential debate, when President Bush and Senator Kerry were asked if they thought homosexuality is a choice. Neither of them answered it clearly, or with any sort of conviction, knowing the inherent hypocrisy in supporting the traditional definition of marriage while also supporting gay rights.

Back to Allen: his vision of America is also an apocalyptic one. He believes that "traditional family values are under attack" and we have to "save society from moral destruction." Referring to the famous (and widely disproved) post-election "moral values" meme, spurred by poorly worded and inaccurately explained exit polls, Allen thinks this Administration now has a mandate to act. It looks like President Bush agrees: he has agreed to meet Allen next week. For the fifth time.

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At 10:59 AM, Blogger Christiana said...

I'm a Christian, though I frequently find myself very conflicted on this issue. However, I'm not going to go into that here. (If anyone is interested, I discuss it on my blog.What I want to say here is that, regardless of their beliefs about the moral nature of homosexuality, it annoys me when politicians act as though gays and lesbians are the biggest threat to our way of life since the Red Menace. To be sure there are lots of sins that are way more common and way more damaging than homosexuality is, but they are harder to rail against because they step on too many toes. There isn't a handy, visible minority group to which they can easily assign blame.

I'm not going to jump on people for thinking that homosexuality is a sin, but I will criticize their actions when they use that belief to persecute people. On top of that, and more to the point really, I'm against censorship. That's the real issue in this story, I think.

 
At 12:03 PM, Blogger Ricardo! said...

Oh! how much better would the world be, if everybody would understand that the right thing to do is to look back on the most rigid, tradicional rules we think are good, and stick to them for all eternity. Many things would have been avoided, like rights for the black people, vote for women or animal rights.

Frankly, some people just don´t see that simple point we´re trying to make: other human beings have no right to differ from OUR (better, supreme, eternal) rules, or be different from what WE (the ones who are right) are.

And it´s not like I´m unaware or completely ignorant of what´s happening around me. I mean What´s more important, The Bible or The Constitution? There you go, The Bible. If not, we´d have muslims in this country!, and people from all over the world with ´em strange religions that don´t eat cheese and ham sandwiches and don´t work saturdays. And that doesn´t happen in America... I mean how different can the rest of the country be from Alabama?

I´m not mad because of any kind of incest that may be going around in the Southern States (and we know THAT doesn´t happen here)Why? Because it is in the Bible!! And so is stoning, murder and those other things that don´t bother our values at all, and therefore, we don´t tackle. But that other people do that thing up in their bussiness, OH PARTNER!!! that´s something I won´t stand there and just watch, like I do with poverty, low education standarts, guns all around me and all round ignorance.

And I finish by saying this: we´re nice people, we´re kind and everything, you just don´t be different ok? To the fags I´ll say this: We aint losing THIS war, and you know how i know it? Because God it´s with US (not all people) and that´s how we are absolutely right, no matter what anyone says

O'er the land of the free
and NOT the home of the Gaaaaaays...

note: not being the home for a group of people based not on their acts (like when we ban terrorism) but in their sexual behavior doesn´t mean we´re not free, ok?

 
At 9:29 AM, Blogger William C. White said...

I'm a heterosexual male, but for some strange reason I can't remember choosing to be straight (whatever that means). I've always liked women. All of the "straight" people that I know seem to suffer from this same "disease", they have always been attracted to the opposite sex.

Now based upon my experience, I can only conclude that homosexuals also do not choose to be gay. They have always been attracted to the same sex.

So is sexuality really a choice, or are people ignoring their own sexuality? Are people like Alabama State Representative Gerald Allen saying that they thought about being gay at one time, but choose to be straight? Did Pat Robertson think about holding another man in his arms while he slept, and then decide he would rather hold a woman? I just don't get it. Are people who claim that homosexuality is a choice think about being homosexuals at one time, but then chose to be heterosexuals? If not, how can they claim it's a choice?

The problem that homosexuals face when it comes to Christianity is Leviticus 18:22 and especially Leviticus 20:13. You can't make, or even ask, Christians not to believe in their Bible. If you are a homosexual, your actions are in conflict with the Bible. Choices: Denounce the Biblical teachings or live a lie. But don't support the Bible and then tell people not to believe in the some of the teachings in the Bible.

This is an issue for gays that they cannot compromise on. If you settle for less, then less is what you'll get.

 
At 11:37 AM, Blogger Me said...

Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Yes, let's decide who we're voting for based on whether or not they like them there homoseckshuls or not. Because, let's face it, homosexuals getting married is one of the majorly influential matters which penetrates and affects the daily, nay, hourly courses of our lives. I'm going to make some tea. WHAT!!??? Homosexuals want the right to get married???!!! How can I possibly drink tea now???!!! Yes, it is that silly.

And who's to define what is moral? Are we talking macromoral or micromoral here? The basics such as not murdering, stealing, or harming other individuals are a given. But what people do in the privacy of their own homes, provided anyone involved is a willing participant, is the business of only those individuals present and is not for the judgement of anyone else. And don't pull the "god" thing on me because that fairytale is your crutch, not mine.

Let's say I find someone picking his/her nose to be rather barbaric and not becoming of a human being. Should I be able to outlaw that? No, just don't pick it if you're in my house, please.

By the way, religion isn't a personal choice. What the majority of sheeple claim to believe has a direct impact on the rest of us. Think about that one.

 
At 5:48 AM, Blogger ari said...

I don't understand why the U.S. government has any constitutional rights to restrict or reward personal behavior between consenting adults. I have no grasp of how society is harmed if homosexuals live in the same household as a family and have the same rights as any other family. Here in Massachusetts, the sky has not fallen in the last year since homosexual marriage has become a fact of life. Individual rights are not a zero sum game. In fact, the more rights we have as a society, the better for all!

The government needs to get completely out of the marriage santioning business. The Constitution says nothing about a right of marriage. Let there be legal contracts that individuals sign to form a government recognized "union" with the rights and responsibilities thereof. We should all have an equal right to do this under the law. Leave "Marriage" up to the churches.

 
At 3:57 PM, Blogger Melissa said...

It's certainly heartening to hear such intelligence coming from everyday citizens. I was beginning to think we'd all gone to hell in a handbasket.

1.) Everyone should get the same rights as provided by the Constitution and Bill of Rights, regardless of race, sex, and sexual preference. You can't exlude people just because you disagree with their lifestyle. I mean, we are in the United States, right? Not Afghanistan?

2.) Not everyone in the U.S. is Christian. There are many other religions present, plus people who are not religious at all; therefore, we CANNOT have a religious based society. Christians do not have a right to dictate their beliefs to the rest of the U.S. That's why we have Freedom of Religion.


3.) Of course homosexuality is NOT a choice. You're absolutely correct. I never sat around and decided I was heterosexual. I just am. Religious fanatics have to deny this otherwise they'd have to admit that God made homosexuals the way they are and then they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

4.) It's absolutely ridiculous that during a time of war the most important topic on the political agenda is gay marriage. It's obviously a ruse used by the Bush administration and those who support it to draw attention away from the failing economy and war.

Everyone needs to get a life and mind their own business.

 
At 2:52 AM, Blogger Ken said...

Hmm, interesting comments, even tho I don't see comments from representatives of the majority... that is, supposedly most people in America are against gay marriage. (Let's not nitpick the exact number... say half of America, or whatever).

Anyway I have a funny thought. What's the legal definition of man or woman, anyway? Couldn't someone get some kind of minor operation so that their surgeon could officially certify them as being of changed sex? I guess they go by birth certificate, but I wonder if there are states where one's assigned sex can be legally changed, just like a name change? Would be funny to watch something like that go to the supreme court, eh? Especially if the celebrity couple were first on the Jerry Springer show, or similar.

Meanwhile W and Rove could proudly propose an ammendment against sex changes, and make the issue a big vote puller for 2008? (Hey 2000 Nader voters... see what you've DONE to us now!? God must have one heck of a sense of humor.)

 
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