Tuesday, November 09, 2004

Will Kerry Unconcede?



I am angry and getting emails and recrimination from people wondering why KERRY just caved and is not fighting this before the final count in Ohio, before any of the fraud was challenged, before New Mexico and Iowa even came in.

There is widespread feeling that he did not lose the election and that it was taken from him.

There is enough here to warrant investigation and enough to challenge the results. It's coming from all corners.

I understand that he has until the official count certification in Ohio to Un Concede which is several days from now.

Anyone who thinks that he should unconcede should give reasons why -
whatever they noticed, particularly in Red Republican Governed States using electronic machines- and send them directly to Cameron KERRY, John Kerry's brother at his law firm at the address CKerry@Mintz.com

They should inform us if they were not allowed to vote provisionally (for whatever reason- they lost forms, ran out of forms, etc.) I personally witnessed a number of things as I reported in Texas with the DCCC. (Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee)

If you know anyone in particular in Ohio who tried to vote and was turned away at the polls please get their information and notify the campaign.

They should be notified if they experienced lines longer than four hours -particularly elderly or infirm people (we call that torture when they do it to political prisoners) . They should be notified if people were told as has been reported that due to too many people showing up in African-American precincts, particularly in Ohio where there were too few booths (some only had two or three for the entire precinct) and told because of heavy turn out they could vote on Wednesday. If the numbers of these sorts of incidents creates a percentage margin that exceeds the margin of victory- Un Concession has to be made to challenge the count.

If people wanted to and tried to vote and were prevented or actively
discouraged from doing so, that is a Civil Rights matter and must be
dealt with in
terms of the ultimate count.

This is the last email that I am writing on this subject in this venue. I am taking it up in other venues.

Please pass along this to your listservs so that we may make Democracy Work in America. We are not a country where he who cheats best wins.

Cynthia L. Butler
1717 K St. NW, Suite 600
Washington, DC 20036
Miss Theo's Loose Leaves


At 1:10 PM, Blogger mcorny said...

You conspiracy theorists should really give it a rest. Bush got both the popular vote and the electoral college and won. Kerry conceded like a big boy so get on with your lives and start preparing for 2010.

At 7:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cynthia, Your comment caught our attention and we had to reply with our comments. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Kerry conceding early.

We live in Ohio and have been very suspicious of the Republican Secretary of State and his role in the voting process throughout Ohio. I totally agree with your comments about the possibility of fraud. Like you, my spouse and I are also in the legal profession. We were also active in Kerry's campaign. We're still shocked over his election loss and then his decision to concede early, but I believe Bush was overly confident and knew that morning of election day that he would win.... and, just like in Florida in the 2000 election (Jeb Bush as Governor, Secretary of State was good friend of the Bush family, and the Supreme Court Judges' inappropriate decision), we suspect there's more to how Bush won both elections that only Bush and his top supporters are privy to.

To let you know of a possible illegal activity, the only pertinent information that we want to share is that there were 2,000(not sure of exact number) votes for Bush already in the machine when it was delivered to it's destination in Gahanna, Ohio. What's being done about this? - probably nothing. Were there other machines with "added Bush votes" - probably so.

Further, we want to share that much has been said about Bush's win was based on morals and values(?!?!? - which one?). The lies and deceptions leading us to war in Iraq, Halliburton receiving exhorbitant amounts for it's role in Iraq, the much lower opinions of our country throughout the world, increasing unemployment at home and employment outside the USA, and the uncontrollable and highest debt ever. These facts are only some of Bush's "accomplishments."

We believe serious changes in the election process are necessary and, especially regarding the machines or method used, the Secretary of State's role, and how money is raised for campaigning and media advertisements. Bush's 260 million for campaign purposes should have been used to pay off the debts he incurred that will eventually and greatly affect us, especially our children. Another change we would like to see is the Supreme Ct. Judges having terms, not lifetime assignments chosen by the President/Senate. They should be voted into their positions just like all other candidates and politicians.

In our residential area, an upper-middle-class suburb, many of Kerry's signs were stolen and there was a death threat called in at the restaurant where the Democratic candidates and active volunteers gathered one evening. An attorney, a city official who is also with a major law firm, had his daughter jump out of their car to grab a Kerry sign out of someone's front yard. Someone saw them, wrote down his license number, and this made the local news. Of course this is illegal, but was he fined or arrested or was his law license in question due to unethical behavior - probably not.

These are the moral values that the Bush supporters appreciate? - probably so.

While we wrote more than you were asking for, we had much to say about Bush's record; we hope there is some or any effort to look into possible fraudulent voting activity, whether in Ohio or elsewhere. However, the only possible investigation into Bush and the election is by the FBI, if impartial and not affected by executive influence, which would uncover any activities leading to the recommendation for impeachment.

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At 11:36 AM, Blogger Mariposa said...

I think poor Cameron Kerry's e-mail box is bit full now. He's asking that information about voting irregularities be forwarded to the DNC

Note from Cameron Kerry on Buzzflash

At 4:53 PM, Blogger Webbahs Blog said...

No doubt about it, the election process has many problems. With all our great technology it seems odd they can't get a uniform system in place. One observation might be that they don't want it fixed.
However, if money was directly involved you bet your bottom dollar, they'd get it right, no pun intended.

At 6:41 AM, Blogger Princess_1979 said...

Okay people, what is it going to take for you to get that George W. Bush won the election. I may have agreed with you if the outcome had been similar to that in 2000, but the man won not only the electoral vote but he also won the popular vote by an outstanding margin. He won this election, he was duly elected, not appointed as so many of you were fond of saying. But you can't say that anymore so now it's fraud right? Get over it, you lost.

Y'all are like those Southerners who still hold on to those pre-civil war attitudes. YOU LOST! Come 2008 why don't y'all get more likeminded folks registered and get them to the polls on election day. Until then stop all this BS and get on with your lives. John Kerry did the right thing by conceding and you all know it. At least he had the presence of mind to not put the country through the mess that Gore did after the 2000 election. Take a page from his book and accept it. I did not vote for Kerry, but I do respect him for conceding when he did, he could have drawn it out but he chose to do the right thing.

I really can't say that I'm surprised that this letter came from a lawyer, it would figure. It's people like you that give the profession a bad rap. It almost makes me want to change Majors.

At 1:11 PM, Blogger Nathan said...

My people.

I respect Kerry for conceding and not recreating another 2000. But the thing is: this isn't another 2000. Bush won the popular vote by a large margin, recieved more votes than any other candidate in history, won over 50% of the popular vote, increased the GOP's stake in the House and Senate. This is a clear victory.

Just give up...again.

At 11:21 AM, Blogger CleverCynic said...

You guys... always saying things you're going to regret in due time. You thought you had something to learn in heavily democratic areas in FL that voted overwhelmingly for Bush. After finding out that democrats there have voted Republican for the last 20 years, you figure you just DON'T have something to learn there. Well you do. Come back to where your party is!

And this cheating thing... I know you guys slashed tires, threw bricks, beat up police officers, registered twice the number of citizens in given areas, preyed on the paranoia of the black population, prostituted the media-impressionable kids. Will ANY of you denounce it? Have you figured out why we don't want Felons to vote? Geez did you think they were Republicans? And quit killing your unborn voters... we'd have been history by now. >50,000,000 and counting.

At 12:43 PM, Blogger Ellie said...

Ya mean 2008, right McCorny? And conspiracy, lemme tell you something sweetheart voter fraud is NOT some sort of conspiracy theory pulled outta our asses, its a fact and if there's even ONE SHRED OF SOLID EVIDENCE that somebody cheated the electoral process...well it is a capital offense, you lose your right to vote entirely if caught. Oh and by the way, a concession speech is not legally binding, nor is a victory speech...watch for the Ohio recount. ;)

At 4:06 PM, Blogger Carter King said...

gee,I wonder why my commanders military absentee ballot was rejected in Michigan?And marked "no such adress",when his father,a retired Colonel,has lived at that adress for decades?Democrats HAVE to resort to fraud!

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